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    <title>new project: belligerence: the game</title>
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      <name>jeff_junker</name>
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    <id>http://bellligerence.tribe.net/thread/284d6938-affa-41db-b191-89f39803c40a</id>
    <updated>2005-09-23T02:33:55Z</updated>
    <published>2004-05-13T03:55:22Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;i'm currently working on "belligerence: the game" i'll keep everyone informed with the progress.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2004-05-13T03:55:22Z</dc:date>
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    <title>thiss time i'm seriously working on next issue</title>
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      <name>jeff_junker</name>
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    <id>http://bellligerence.tribe.net/thread/e474ec60-1093-44b7-9fb6-e7939d8ad81a</id>
    <updated>2005-08-31T20:59:59Z</updated>
    <published>2005-06-21T12:07:23Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;life throws crap...&amp;amp; i'm finally ready to be creatie 7 active again.. i'm working on the new issue as we speak, If anyone wants to submit anything for it also..fell free.
&lt;br/&gt;broodingRant press
&lt;br/&gt;jeff junker
&lt;br/&gt;72 sarah ln
&lt;br/&gt;middletown ny 10942&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2005-06-21T12:07:23Z</dc:date>
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    <title>No Wrong Ansewer.</title>
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      <name>vulcan</name>
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    <id>http://bellligerence.tribe.net/thread/81a3c250-9ee5-4501-93ab-48f91832fe5d</id>
    <updated>2005-08-17T19:54:47Z</updated>
    <published>2005-08-17T19:54:47Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I'm looking for input.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I'm a 6'1" homosexual man of Puerto Rican decent. 
&lt;br/&gt;I'm a fixture in the local Punk Rock/Hard Core scene and shave my head so folks can see the huge tattoo of the bat on the back of my head. 
&lt;br/&gt;It should be obvious to most folks reading this that I am an assimilationist. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;When I walk down the street folks don't assume that I am Gay. 
&lt;br/&gt;The reason I know this is because about a decade ago I was putting up fliers for a local punk show and I heard a fraternity/jock type college student say/ask one of his friends, "Can you  believe that guy is Gay?" 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;OK, maybe being known in my community does not make me much of an assimilationist. At least as defined by revolutionary-radicle-anti-assimilationist-queers. 
&lt;br/&gt;You see, one of the difining qualities of so called assimilationist Gays is that we are invisible. By moving to the suburbs and getting married we are blending in and hiding who we are. Also, somehow, two men, or women, or trans folks, with a kid in a carrage are validating a repressive-sexist-racist-classist-militaristic system. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Or....
&lt;br/&gt;Maybe the term assimilationist is in fact what I've felt it's been for a quarter of a centuary now: Name Calling. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Back in the late 1970's I remember Gay men and Lesbians getting married. They we not trying to make it legal. Gay men and Women were bringing there friends and famalies togeather to celebrate in the manner they were most familiar with, 
&lt;br/&gt;or in the manner that there religeous/spiritual tradition required. 
&lt;br/&gt;And every argument I heard againts these Gay wedding ceramonies came from the so called political Gay left. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The term I heard most often at first was "parroting." As in "Oh, there just parroting hetrosexual behavior." At best this sounded to me like arm chair psychology. At worst it made it sound as if these Gay men and women weren't entirly human. Just animals that mimmiced human behavior, like orangutans. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Then the word assimilationist started to assail my post-pubecent ears. 
&lt;br/&gt;And every time I heard a well read, college educated white gay man or women use it, they sounded to me like some mean spirited three year old calling one of there peers a "Doo-doo head." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I was not inspired. I'm still not sure what word would best express how a 17 year old gay lad would feel listening to the adults of his "community" belittle other members of a community that were supposedly part of a cival rights movement. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;One moment I'm being told that we, as a group, were under attack. The next moment came the proscribed time to make fun of the personal choices our "brothers and sisters" were making. 
&lt;br/&gt;"Brother", "Sister". I heard those terms a lot then too. Over time they went out of fashion. "Assimilationist" has not. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I still hear it to this day. And my feelings towards the word have not changed. My view of those intellegent, well read, and committed men and women has changed however. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;PROFOUND POLETARIAT WISDOM
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I know a skinhead named Mike. Actualy I know several skinheads named Mike. There all good guys by the way. But this particular skinhead named Mike now lives in New York and sings for a band called American Noise. When we first met my reputation had proceded me and Mike told me this story. 
&lt;br/&gt;He was at a party with his girlfriend. She has friends that are Gay and they were in attendence as well. She was introducing folks around and after introducing one of her Gay friends to a local skinhead left to tend to other folks. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;There was a pause and the skinhead said "So your Gay. How's that working out for ya?" Mike told me "He (the Gay guy) was pissed off for a week!" I thought it was one of the funniest things I'd heard. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I wondered what it was the Gay man was mad about. The question has no wrong ansewer. 
&lt;br/&gt;You started a new job? How's that working out for ya? Got a new girl? How's that working out for ya? 
&lt;br/&gt;Take it up the bum? How's that working out for ya? 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I told Mike "If that was me, I'd have said, 'Oh great! I'm all paid up on my Gay dues. But damn!
&lt;br/&gt;I didn't know there were so many meetings to go to! But Hey! Look at how well accessorized I am!'" 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;THERE IS NO WRONG ANSEWER! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The question "How is that working out for you?" is a very profound one. In my life I've had to reassess my actions, behaveoir and beliefs. Some issues were easier to address then others. But over time it's become a discipline. A discipline I've needed help from others to  improve on. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;So my question for you queers; How's it working out for you? HAs your use of the term assimilationist inspired confidence from the diverse communities? Or has it made Gay folks see you as mean spirited, privalaged, and clueless. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Has it promoted  the idea of diversity as valueble and worth encourageing? Or has it made the term diversity little more then a buzz word? 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Has it made you attentive to the needs and suffering of Bisexual, Gay Male, Lesbian, and Trans individuals and communities? Or has it deafened you to certain  voices in the chorus? 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Has it reenforced the concept of us being "brothers and sisters?" &lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2005-08-17T19:54:47Z</dc:date>
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    <title>skinhead dress-up guy</title>
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      <name>jeff_junker</name>
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    <updated>2005-07-07T02:26:27Z</updated>
    <published>2005-07-07T02:26:27Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;http://www.geocities.com/artbyandyuk/SKIN/index.htm&lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>20% of Gays Voted for Bush: My Question.</title>
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      <name>vulcan</name>
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    <updated>2004-11-08T22:38:50Z</updated>
    <published>2004-11-08T22:38:50Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;20% of gays vote for Bush 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;www.advocate.com/new_news.asp 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"The president received between 21% and 23% of the GLBT vote, about same percentage he received in the 2000 election, according to data from CNN and The Washington Post. Challenger John Kerry received a slightly higher percentage of votes from gay Americans than Gore did four years ago, according to the numbers--77% versus the 70% that were cast for Gore in 2000. As in the previous race, about 4% of voters identified as GLBT. Kerry picked up more votes from those who voted for independent Ralph Nader in 2000."  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I was not suprised.  20% is what I expected. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I have for the last decade been working on what I call the One in Five Rule. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;20% of any given population "get it." Wether it be about racism, class, the enviroment ect One in Five "Get It". They see with right away how the issue effects them and others. Wether those Others are part of there community or not. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;20% of any given population "Don't Get It". 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The rest of the 60% are the folks for whom leadership matters. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;My issue for the last two years has been not "How are we going to win when so many of us vote againts there self interest?" 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;My question has been;
&lt;br/&gt;"Why is the Queer Left Leadership so uninspiring?" 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;LAst week on election Day I started a series on my radio show about that question. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;How about ya'll? Why is the Left in general and the Queer Left Specificly so uninspiring to me? 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Generation Q can be heard Tuesday from 4:PM till 6:PM on http://www.nj.com/wrsu 
&lt;br/&gt;and on the air on 88.7 FM WRSU 
&lt;br/&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>June Pride Broadcast: What are your and our issues?</title>
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    <updated>2004-04-22T20:21:27Z</updated>
    <published>2004-04-22T20:21:27Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hey all.
&lt;br/&gt;I do a two hour Gay Community affairs radio show in New Jersey on 88.7 FM WRSU www.wrsu.org and on line at www.nj.com/wrsu and 
&lt;br/&gt;contribute to a one hour radio program on WBAI www.wbai.org 
&lt;br/&gt;called Out-FM.
&lt;br/&gt;For June on Out-FM we are planning a national 8 hour broadcast.
&lt;br/&gt;I'm wondering what are your top 5 issues you think need to be addressed, discussed, and/or focused on.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Should time be spent on some kind of brainstorming for a plan of action? 
&lt;br/&gt;What do the Bisexual, Faire, Gay Male, Lesbian, Queer, Transgendered communities have in common?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Pedro Angel Serrano
&lt;br/&gt;Generation Q tuesdays from 4:PM till 6:PM on
&lt;br/&gt;88.7 FM WRSU.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>anyone can contribute ideas online</title>
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    <updated>2004-02-04T14:06:22Z</updated>
    <published>2004-02-04T14:06:22Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;the online bored is goin to be a little diffrent then the paper zine...leave your stories...rant or art... 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;**give me a few days &amp;amp; ill start posting stuff&lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>will keep everyoner updated on issue # 3</title>
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    <updated>2004-01-22T14:40:12Z</updated>
    <published>2004-01-22T14:40:12Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;also will be updating this board...fell free to post &amp;amp; submit ideas/ topics for the zine.&lt;/div&gt;
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